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lena- 09-23-2006
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Leo's well-known for imitating his directors especially. Remember reading Baz talk about Leo imitating him and entertaining the cast and crew, or Danny Boyle talking about Leo imitating HarveyW on the phone so well that it fooled Boyle, or stories about Leo imitating Cameron behind his back (maybe as revenge against what cameron were making him and Kate suffer in the water take after take) or Randall Wallace (MITIM) talk about Leo's perfect imitation of him. Watched a Japanese interview from 1997 where he did takes on Michael Jackson, DeNiro and Nicholson perfectly. Interesting question about TBL yapi - now those are the kind of questions people should ask, not the same ho-hum ones over and over again at press interviews. Agree that Leo's razzi for the Beach is ridiculous. the movie was deeply flawed in my opinion but nothing wrong with Leo's performance and far above so many actors. It all stems from the leomania phenomenon. Example: people claiming Scorsese only works with Leo because of money..... as if, Leo is the only actor in Hollywood who has the power to get films made and financed., to say nothing about what it would say about Scorsese as a human being if that were true, especially considering all the great things he has said about Leo as an actor.Does it hurt that Leo has that status in Hollywood, of course not. But I doubt very much Scorsese would continually make films (his life!!) with an actor he didnt respect deeply.

sjanie- 09-23-2006
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Hey, were did you read that? about leo imitating all of them.

ArtReborn- 09-23-2006

I've known a couple of South African people in my life and I think Leo's accent sounds awesome. I was nervous he wouldn't pull it off due to the fact that his accent in Gangs was a bit off, but I think he nailed this one. He must be getting better with age.

josephc- 09-23-2006

When I said it would have been better for Leo to play the character in The Beach as written, I meant that it might have knocked the wind out of some of his big critics a bit. I think a lot of people didn't like the movie because it wasn't enough like the book. They weren't pleased about the change in the character of Richard, who was distinctly British in the book (making a bit more sense as well, since at that time Thailand was the destination for young European backpackers, not young American backpackers). And it's not as if he couldn't have done the accent. I believe he absolutely could have after hearing the accent in BD. He still would have been criticized for something or other, but it might have shown that he was more than the sum of Titanic. I know that he wanted to play the character much darker than the film allowed, and that too is a pity that he didn't get to do it, imo.

yapi- 09-23-2006
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Leo's well-known for imitating his directors especially. Remember reading Baz talk about Leo imitating him and entertaining the cast and crew, or Danny Boyle talking about Leo imitating HarveyW on the phone so well that it fooled Boyle, or stories about Leo imitating Cameron behind his back (maybe as revenge against what cameron were making him and Kate suffer in the water take after take) or Randall Wallace (MITIM) talk about Leo's perfect imitation of him. lol but why he hides this to the public knowledge ? :lol: he seems so serious and shy in the tv interviews. Watched a Japanese interview from 1997 where he did takes on Michael Jackson, DeNiro and Nicholson perfectly. do you have a link where I could watch this ? I think I heard him imitated scorsese once in an interview. Interesting question about TBL yapi - now those are the kind of questions people should ask, not the same ho-hum ones over and over again at press interviews. I'm flatterred :lol: Example: people claiming Scorsese only works with Leo because of money yeah, I know but they can think what they want..... The problem, with this people, is : they lost all their objectivity with dicaprio after all the leomania. Since then, when they watch a movie with dicaprio, they don't see a character (amsterdam, howard hughes), they just see leo. Ok some of this people saw movies with dicaprio before and after titanic and change their mind, but many of them still think that Dicaprio is overrated and all. Because the thing is dicaprio became this big huge star for a movie where his role was maybe the most simple character he had to do in his career. The character was a simple guy, happy, even if he was poor, who fell in love and tries to save his love and his life. So many people didn't understand all this leomania. I still think that people like me (I follow him since Growing pains....oh damn I'm old :lol: ) who discovered this guy before titanic (and he gave stellar performances especially in the boy's life, WEGG, basketball diaries, R+J) are maybe more objective about dicaprio than the ones who discovered him in Titanic and were overdose by the leomania. Fact is : without talent nobody would have 'survive' (as an actor) to the overexposure he had after titanic. ..... as if, Leo is the only actor in Hollywood who has the power to get films made and financed., to say nothing about what it would say about Scorsese as a human being if that were true, especially considering all the great things he has said about Leo as an actor.Does it hurt that Leo has that status in Hollywood, of course not. But I doubt very much Scorsese would continually make films (his life!!) with an actor he didnt respect deeply. I agree. I was nervous he wouldn't pull it off due to the fact that his accent in Gangs was a bit off, ok, I'm the only one who think Amsterdam, in GONY, lost many of his irish accent during all the time he was in the orphenage (without irish people around him, it's logical) ? about blood diamond : I really liked the trailer....... I can't wait to watch the interaction between dicaprio and Djimon "Mobalage" Hounsou (I'm french so here, few years ago, we heard about the fact he was a vagrant in Paris) with all this chaos around them. It's weird because the only thing I heard about this movie are from the the diamond industry who are afraid about it.

lena- 09-24-2006

yapi - I have this interview on tape. I'll send you a PM with details. I could see a difference in Leo in interviews pre-Titanic and after. Maybe he felt (wrongly, in my opinion) that he could not be as free-form as he was before; his answers and comments in interviews seem rehearsed carefully now and quite honestly, boring. You can see this most of all in his print interviews. Post Titanic, sadly, he's lost his zip and quircky (odd) humor he displayed earlier. I hope to heaven you are right about The Blood Diamond. Because of the director and his past work, I was not excited or hopeful about this project. Have you seen his The Last Samurai? It's a perfectly well-intentioned film but I disliked very much the whole concept of the story, with Cruise as the white American savior and the unimaginative way it was directed, very much Hallmark-style drama.You are right that for a film to be released in mid -December, there has been very little talk about the film.

yapi- 09-24-2006

I could see a difference in Leo in interviews pre-Titanic and after. Maybe he felt (wrongly, in my opinion) that he could not be as free-form as he was before; his answers and comments in interviews seem rehearsed carefully now and quite honestly, boring. You can see this most of all in his print interviews. Post Titanic, sadly, he's lost his zip and quircky (odd) humor he displayed earlier. Yeah I saw the difference before and after titanic in the interviews. But I don't think he felt wrongly. It's like 'self-defense'. Many still waiting a stupid thing from him to mock him so He tries to not give them material. I hope to heaven you are right about The Blood Diamond. Because of the director and his past work, I was not excited or hopeful about this project. Have you seen his The Last Samurai? It's a perfectly well-intentioned film but I disliked very much the whole concept of the story, with Cruise as the white American savior and the unimaginative way it was directed, very much Hallmark-style drama. No I didn't see the Last Samurai and apparently it's for the better. :wink: I didn't know what to expect about "Blood diamond" but now that I saw the trailer, I'm really hook. I think it is necessary to aware people about the things going on in Africa. about the accent : someone who saw blood diamond at a screening said that dicaprio's character is from (Southern) Rhodesia, today Zimbabwe. :wink: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Rhodesia

ArtReborn- 09-24-2006
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ok, I'm the only one who think Amsterdam, in GONY, lost many of his irish accent during all the time he was in the orphenage (without irish people around him, it's logical) ? I remember Leo once talking in an interview about how Amsterdam's accent was strange because they weren't sure if he should sound more Irish or American. But the truth is, I don't think it was a good idea to have it coming and going like that. I think critics would have been more impressed if his accent had been full on Irish. And as far as Blood Diamond goes, I think it's going to be a very important subject and quite a worthy film. The director may have done Last Samurai (which was mediocre at best) but he also did Glory, which is a brilliant film. Judging from the trailer of BD, it looks incredibly good and I'm excited to see it.

OneFilmLover- 09-24-2006

eh.... as far Departed connections I'm more looking forward to The Good Shepherd. It's not cause the movie looks bad, it's looks like the crew spent some time making it and they really filtered it through with lots of funky filterrs to give it a good look, and DiCaprio's South Effrican accent is decent but not great (lived there for 2 years while younger and 1 of best friends in Europe was South African as well) but as long as he doesn't fluctuate in and out he should be fine. It's just I kind've have a thing against director Ed Zwick's love of WHITEY. Now I'm white. But his films are all these masquerades of celebrating other cultures by in turn celebrating the greatness of white involvment. Glory- nice movie, should've really been about the black battalion but was really Matthew Broderick's movie. Last Samurai was borderline offensive with Tom Cruise being the Last Samurai. And now it looks like this movie is going to focus on the harsh diamond trade (anybody who reads a newspaper should not be shocked to hear this) but to garner American symapthy is really going to be a story of Whitey (Leo D) coming to terms with his humanity and saving the poor African. I don't know. I'll see the movie but there's certainly a lot other more interesting and less cliche movies coming out in the next few months. Plus shouldn't a movie about the harsh unjust human treatment of Africans in the diamond trade involve more talk about the diamond trade and not someones accent?

lena- 09-24-2006

OFL- the topic started here on the accent because when the trailer came out, many of the reactions on movie sites complained about the accent. I agree with you about what bothers you about Zwick films but looking at the trailer and reading some of the reviews of people who saw an early cut, it seems like Djimon has actually a lot of impact in this film, equal or more to Leo's character, so it may be different in that way - let's hope so. The fact that people on this thread were discussing the accent doesn't mean the real importance of the film doesn't matter to us. I'm sure when we're access to see the film, then there will be lot of discussions about the content and the important issues involved. yapi and artreborn, my take was that Boyle changed Richard from to an American because he sought Leo for the role and also in some way, give a reason to Ewan McGregor as to why he didn't get the role since to this day Ewan somehow thinks Boyle should have automatically cast him in that role.

josephc- 09-24-2006

As to Leo's accent, I think it's fine and I've been around S. Africans, too. However, it makes sense to point out that S. Africans have different dialects depending on where they're from -- Cape Town or Jo'berg with the latter sounding different. It's not easy to pull off. Defending Zwick is tough because I haven't liked all his films -- Legends of the Fall was a real slog for me. The Last Samurai just lost ground in the final third of the film, but it's interesting that the best character wasn't Tom Cruise but the Japanese Samurai played by Ken Watanabe -- he also got the oscar nod. Glory was fine, however, and I don't believe he overemphasized Matthew Broderick's role since the film largely hewed close to the true facts of what happened if you actually bother to read the history books. His character was a true abolitionist and recognized early that having a black battalion was important to the war and certainly black men wanted to fight in the war and up to that point had been denied the possibility. The characters who come through most strongly in the film were the black men as played by Denzel Washington, Morgan Freeman, etc. Their struggles were the centerpoint of the film as much as Brodericks, if you ask me. So I don't fault Zwick for being all for "whitey". That's a lot of B.S. as far as I'm concerned. I think Djimon Hounsou will come through loud and clear in Diamond, so I'm not concerned with that aspect at all.

yapi- 09-25-2006

an article with comments of Stephen collins about "Blood diamond" (he played a part in it) http://www.dailynews.com/celebrities/ci_4390179 "Leonardo DiCaprio is turning a huge page in his career," predicts Stephen Collins of DiCaprio's portrayal in the upcoming Ed Zwick drama "Blood Diamond." "He is really, 100 percent, this interesting, complicated white African Rhodesian soldier of fortune in this movie. He reminds me of William Holden in `The Bridge on the River Kwai'; he's got that kind of presence," says the "7th Heaven" star, who's featured in the film that also stars Jennifer Connelly and Djimon Hounsou. Collins, who's playing a U.S. trade ambassador in the controversial film about the blood spilled and lives lost in the mining and sale of the precious gems, says "the diamond industry is preparing for this movie much the same way the Catholic Church prepared for `The Da Vinci Code."' He explains, "Blood diamonds are mined illegally and sold on the black market, often from a country at war to finance war or rebellion." He adds the movie, opening Dec. 15, is "an amazing film. It's got a heavy political message and heavy social message, a hint of a love story, and it's all wrapped up in this big, huge, action story." ----- I just hope it will have a better reception by the critics than "the da vinci code " :) and well I think you all saw the interview where dicaprio talked a little bit about the "blood diamond" at the end http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U7D8ezH9tA --- OT : about talents of dicaprio for imitation....in this interview with david letterman (1995) at the 3:56 min, you could see him doing a great bob de niro's imitation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP1uust0ep4

josephc- 09-25-2006

William Holden.....High praise indeed!!!

will- 09-25-2006

The 'Blood Diamond' trailer will debut with The Departed.

josephc- 09-25-2006

It makes sense they'd want BD to ride on the coattails of Departed for obvious reasons. It'll be interesting to see how that goes over. :idea:

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